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In Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, two boys in a border town fell in love. Now, they must discover what it means to stay in love and build a relationship in a world that seems to challenge their very existence. Ari has spent all of high school burying who he really is, staying silent and invisible. He expected his senior year to be the same. But s In Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, two boys in a border town fell in love. Now, they must discover what it means to stay in love and build a relationship in a world that seems to challenge their very existence. Ari has spent all of high school burying who he really is, staying silent and invisible. He expected his senior year to be the same. But something in him cracked open when he fell in love with Dante, and he can’t go back. Suddenly he finds himself reaching out to new friends, standing up to bullies of all kinds, and making his voice heard. And, always, there is Dante, dreamy, witty Dante, who can get on Ari’s nerves and fill him with desire all at once. The boys are determined to forge a path for themselves in a world that doesn’t understand them. But when Ari is faced with a shocking loss, he’ll have to fight like never before to create a life that is truthfully, joyfully his own. The highly anticipated sequel to the critically acclaimed, multiple award-winning novel Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe is an achingly romantic, tender tale sure to captivate fans of Adam Silvera and Mary H.K. Choi.


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In Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, two boys in a border town fell in love. Now, they must discover what it means to stay in love and build a relationship in a world that seems to challenge their very existence. Ari has spent all of high school burying who he really is, staying silent and invisible. He expected his senior year to be the same. But s In Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, two boys in a border town fell in love. Now, they must discover what it means to stay in love and build a relationship in a world that seems to challenge their very existence. Ari has spent all of high school burying who he really is, staying silent and invisible. He expected his senior year to be the same. But something in him cracked open when he fell in love with Dante, and he can’t go back. Suddenly he finds himself reaching out to new friends, standing up to bullies of all kinds, and making his voice heard. And, always, there is Dante, dreamy, witty Dante, who can get on Ari’s nerves and fill him with desire all at once. The boys are determined to forge a path for themselves in a world that doesn’t understand them. But when Ari is faced with a shocking loss, he’ll have to fight like never before to create a life that is truthfully, joyfully his own. The highly anticipated sequel to the critically acclaimed, multiple award-winning novel Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe is an achingly romantic, tender tale sure to captivate fans of Adam Silvera and Mary H.K. Choi.

30 review for Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World

  1. 5 out of 5

    Isa ☾

    3.5 stars if god hates gays why do we keep winning update after reading: Ari's development was amazing but I feel like this could've been better written. The writing here feels like the Walmart version of the first one. 3.5 stars if god hates gays why do we keep winning update after reading: Ari's development was amazing but I feel like this could've been better written. The writing here feels like the Walmart version of the first one.

  2. 4 out of 5

    Fatima Havilliard

    I'm the only one crying of happiness right now? :'D 27/01/16 We have a title: There Will Be Other Summers Someone call the doctor because I'm dying in this moment! 27/02/16 Look what I found: "At this time, not much is known about the sequel. Saenz is in the process of writing its initial draft, so readers have time to pick up the first novel before moving onto the second. While Saenz originally claimed that the sequel was a retelling of the first novel from Dante’s perspective, that has been c I'm the only one crying of happiness right now? :'D 27/01/16 We have a title: There Will Be Other Summers Someone call the doctor because I'm dying in this moment! 27/02/16 Look what I found: "At this time, not much is known about the sequel. Saenz is in the process of writing its initial draft, so readers have time to pick up the first novel before moving onto the second. While Saenz originally claimed that the sequel was a retelling of the first novel from Dante’s perspective, that has been changed. Now it will pick right up where the first one ended from Aristotle’s perspective. If the sequel is anything like the first, then it will have an abundance of emotions, continued reflections, and a further exploration of the themes discussed in the first novel. With this, hopefully, the story of Aristotle and Dante will continue to gain critical success and reach out to its audience who needs the story of these two boys to be told." I think we'll have the sequel in 2017/2018. :D

  3. 5 out of 5

    Asia

    I was waiting more or less patiently for seven long years to finally see what a journey awaits Ari and Dante, some people waited even longer. But now I know it was worth it. Just so you know, my opinion is probably biased but whatever. The history continues and while Ari and Dante face some difficult things in life, they also grow up and become even more precious. Life is hard and unfortunately a lot of people are not accepting the truth, that everyone should live the way they want, not matter wh I was waiting more or less patiently for seven long years to finally see what a journey awaits Ari and Dante, some people waited even longer. But now I know it was worth it. Just so you know, my opinion is probably biased but whatever. The history continues and while Ari and Dante face some difficult things in life, they also grow up and become even more precious. Life is hard and unfortunately a lot of people are not accepting the truth, that everyone should live the way they want, not matter what is your race or sexuality. Nobody should tell you how to live your life. Did I cry? Duh (view spoiler)[Papa Mendoza (hide spoiler)] . I honestly don't know what else to say. I'll just gladly go back to the story of Ari and Dante's over and over again. __________________________ 16/06/21 Who pre-ordered this baby? __________________________ 06/03/21 How could I miss the release?! Shame on me! But THE COVER!!!!! So pretty! __________________________ 15/02/21 "ARISTOTLE AND DANTE DIVE INTO THE WATERS OF THE WORLD. October 12th from Simon and Schuster. It took me years to write this book. It’s not my book anymore. It’s yours now. Sorry you had to wait so long. You’re beautiful." WE DID IT!!! THE TITLE! THE DATE! __________________________ 23/01/21 I'm just going to copy and paste the tweet: "The title of the sequel is definitely NOT There Will be Other Summers. I decided on a Title: Ari & Dante: the World Without Us In It. But that’s changed. The title will be revealed soon and so will the cover along with the pub date. Look for the announcement coming soon!" __________________________ 20/07/20 "I’m happy to announce that I have finally finished writing the sequel and have sent it to my agent. Stay tuned for more updates." YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________________ 12/08/19 __________________________ 12/06/17 Benjamin Alire Saenz wrote on Twitter that it might be finished by the end of summer! :D __________________________ 27/1/16 It has a title and it's in Ari's POV and the story continues!!!

  4. 4 out of 5

    jessica

    look, i will be the first person to tell you that this sequel isnt exactly necessary. when a second book comes out years after the first one, i think its definitely a case of capitalising on its popularity to make money (looking at you margaret atwood). thats just my two cents. but that doesnt mean i didnt enjoy this. because i did. but there is one massive thing that really surprised me about this - dante literally disappears for a huge chunk of the story. i would say a good 60ish% is missing d look, i will be the first person to tell you that this sequel isnt exactly necessary. when a second book comes out years after the first one, i think its definitely a case of capitalising on its popularity to make money (looking at you margaret atwood). thats just my two cents. but that doesnt mean i didnt enjoy this. because i did. but there is one massive thing that really surprised me about this - dante literally disappears for a huge chunk of the story. i would say a good 60ish% is missing dante. hes there in the beginning, when the boys are on summer break. but then during the school year, its all ari. and then dante comes back very briefly after they graduate. i honestly would retitle this ‘aristotle dives into the waters of the world, semi alone.’ but i do think theres a lot of good content in this, even if dante isnt present for most of it. aris character growth is amazing! he relationships, his goals for the future, his self acceptance. all of it is great. but the reason i enjoyed this so much is actually because of the writing. goodness me the writing in this is stunning. i think if i were an author i would want to emulate BASs writing style, i love it that much. it so beautifully and profoundly captures each emotion it conveys. i think with such an emotionally charged story as this, BASs writing only makes it better. overall, not a book thats needed in the grand scheme of things and not quite what i was expecting, but still has some very enjoyable aspects. ↠ 3.5 stars

  5. 5 out of 5

    Sahil Javed

    Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World is the well-awaited sequel to Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe. In the first book, Aristotle and Dante, two lost teens, find solace in each other and the love they have for one another. The first book ends with Aristotle realising that he is in fact in love with Dante. The sequel picks up where we left off and follows these two boys as they navigate this new relationship amidst the cruelty of the world. “I once Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World is the well-awaited sequel to Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe. In the first book, Aristotle and Dante, two lost teens, find solace in each other and the love they have for one another. The first book ends with Aristotle realising that he is in fact in love with Dante. The sequel picks up where we left off and follows these two boys as they navigate this new relationship amidst the cruelty of the world. “I once thought that you could find all the secrets of the universe in someone’s hand. And I think that’s true. I did find all the secrets of the universe in your hand. Your hand, Dante.” It’s no secret that Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe is one of my favourite books of all time. It had a really nice exploration of masculinity, a soft, wholesome romance between two boys which develops so excruciatingly slowly but is so wonderful in all its slow burn wonderfulness. The sequel was even better, tenfold, if that’s even possible at all. It was so heartwarming seeing the relationship between these two boys develop, especially as it was during a really difficult time for gay people where AIDS was inflicting so much pain and death on everyone and nobody was helping, instead choosing to remain silent and deliberately oblivious. I like that the novel included those elements, showing that for Ari and Dante, although they had found each other, it was going to be a complicated and hard life at times. “And then I heard myself whisper, “Mom, why didn’t anybody tell me that love hurts so much?” “If I had told you, would it have changed anything?” The relationship between these boys has my whole entire heart. The first book had so many cute moments but they were mainly moments of friendship because it takes Aristotle the whole novel to realise that he is in love with Dante and the novel ends with them kissing. So in the sequel we finally get to see the development of their relationship and the way they navigate the world together and it was glorious. It was sweet and wholesome, with the cute moments they had with one another and their kisses and interactions. It was exciting, because of the desire they were discovering for one another and their own bodies. And it was tense because they are navigating another part of their relationship, discovering both the positives and negatives of each other’s personalities and individual natures. “There’s a world out there that’s going to make you feel like that you don’t belong in this country—or any other country, for that matter. But in this house, Ari, there is only belonging. You belong to us. And we belong to you.” Being in Ari’s head makes me so emotional because of how much I connect with him as a character. He’s an overthinker who relies on his words and it was nice seeing him finally develop that relationship that he had with words and how he used it as an outlet for his feelings. But the way he thinks and the way he feels was so wholesome to watch and it made me so emotional. I love these two fictional characters so much and I can’t express into words just how much they mean to me. This novel developed them both as characters really well and it’s crazy how much they have grown and learned since the first book and even since the beginning of this book to the end. “Life, Ari, can be an ugly thing. But life can be so incredibly beautiful. It’s both. And we have to learn to hold the contradictions inside us without despairing, without losing our hope.” One of my favourite aspects of the first book was the family dynamics and they were even better in the sequel. The relationships that both Ari and Dante have with their parents is so wholesome and the conversations that come out of these relationships are some of my favourites of all times. In a lot of YA novels, the parents are normally absent or there isn't a good relationship there. But the reason I love these books so much is because they portray such a healthy parent-child relationship, especially between Ari and his parents as he grows to realise that he loves them a lot and has failed them in his own way by assuming that they didn’t understand him when in reality it was him who didn’t understand them. It was heartwarming seeing Ari grow closer to his father and push past the obstacles that kept them apart. That development, along with Ari finally confronting his brother, really helped him grow as a character and you can see how much he has fully matured and adapted to his circumstances since the first book and I felt honoured being a part of that journey. “When you are standing all alone,” she whispered, “the people who notice—those are the people who stand by your side. Those are the people who love you.” Ari’s growth and development as a character meant that he was opening up his social circle and instead of staying as a loner, which he did for a lot his life, he starts to branch out to other people, such as Susie and Gina from the first book and a new character that is introduced, Cassandra. Oh my god the friendships that Ari forms with these girls filled my whole heart with so much love. They bond and they grow closer and they are truly there for each other the most important ways and I can’t even express to you how important that was for the story and for Ari’s character development. You can tell that he is truly a better person from just knowing these girls and I’m really glad that these friendships were such a central part of the story. “I don’t ever want to wake up,” he whispered. “We have to go home.” “I’m already home. I’m with you.” That made me smile. Such a Dante thing to say.” The only complaints I have about this book is the fact that I felt like the ending was really rushed. There’s an event that happens between the two boys that felt really abrupt and random and then what follows also feels rushed, but although I’ve said that, I still nevertheless really enjoyed the way the novel was concluded. The only other thing is that there’s a major event that happens towards the last quarter of the novel that to me felt like it came out of nowhere. It made me really emotional and it was so unfair but it also felt like there was no warning? But these were really minor things and didn’t take away from my enjoyment of the novel. “Maybe all we were meant to do on this earth was to keep on telling stories. Our stories—and the stories of the people we loved.” Overall, I can’t express to you just how much I adored Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World. Just like the first book, it was adorable and wholesome whilst also addressing some really important issues. The relationships that are portrayed in this book, the central one between Ari and Dante, the one between the boys and their parents, the friendships between Ari, Dante and Gina, Susie and Cassandra, are done so well and genuinely filled my heart with so much love and warmth that I felt like it was impossible to keep it all in. I just need to tell everyone about this book. Thank you, Benjamin Alire Saenz, for writing this book. We had to wait a while but the wait was worth it because my heart feels full of joy and adoration for Ari and Dante. These two books have my entire heart. And I am so damn happy they exist. Thank you! Some of my favourite quotes (basically the whole book): “And then there was this: Love didn’t just have something to do with my heart—it had something to do with my body. And my body had never felt so alive. And then I knew, I finally knew about this thing called desire.” “I love the rain more than anything.” “I know. I want to be the rain.” “You are the rain, Dante.” And I wanted to say You’re the rain and you’re the desert and you’re the eraser that’s making the word “loneliness” disappear. But it was too much to say and I would always be the guy that would say too little and Dante was the kind of guy who would always say too much.” “And he asked me, “Why don’t you ever sing?” “Singing means that you’re happy.” “You’re not happy?” “Maybe only when I’m with you.” I loved when I said something that made Dante smile.” “She just looked at me in that same kind of way that she had always looked at me. And I wondered if I could ever look at anybody like that, a look that held all the good things that existed in the known universe.” “Everything was so new. It felt as if I had just been born. This life that I was living now, it was like diving into an ocean when all I had known was a swimming pool. There were no storms in a swimming pool. Storms, they were born in the oceans of the world.” “I thought of the sound of his voice the very first time I heard it. I didn’t know that voice was going to change my life. I thought he was only going to teach me how to swim in the waters of this swimming pool. Instead, he taught me how to dive into the waters of life.” “Last year, Mr. Blocker said we could find ourselves in our own writing. All I could think was this: Sounds like a good place to get lost. Yeah, I think I might get lost a hundred times, a thousand times, before I find out who I am and where I’m going.” “Sometimes I had beautiful words living inside of me and I just couldn’t push those words out so that other people could see they were there.” “My mother smiled—and then she broke into a very soft laugh. She ran her fingers through my hair. “Oh, Ari, let your sisters love you. Let yourself be loved. For all you know, there’s a long line of people wanting you to let them in.” “I didn’t know if I was crying because of what my father had said. I think that was part of it. But, really, I think I was crying about a lot of things, about me and my desire for another boy’s body, which was mysterious and terrifying and confusing. I was crying about my brother, whose ghost haunted me. I was crying because I realized how much I loved my father, who was becoming someone I knew. He wasn’t a stranger anymore. I was crying because I had wasted so much time thinking shitty things about him, instead of seeing him as a quiet, kind man who had suffered through a hell called war and had survived.” “Everyone had disappeared from the universe except the young man whose hand I was holding, and everything that had ever been born and everything that had ever died existed where his hand touched mine. Everything—the blue of the sky, the rain in the clouds, the white of the sand, the water in the oceans, all the languages of all the nations, and all the broken hearts that had learned to beat in their brokenness.” “I didn’t feel lost as I kissed Dante. Not lost at all. I had found where I belonged.” “I had never felt this alive and I thought that I would never love anyone or anything as much as I loved Dante in this very moment. He was the map of the world and everything that mattered.” “I sometimes felt like I’d been asleep for a long time—and when I met Dante, I began to wake up, and I began seeing not only him but the mean and terrible and awesome world I lived in. The world was a scary place to live in, and it would always be scary—but you could learn not to be afraid. I guess I had to decide what was more real, the scary things or—or Dante. Dante, he was the most real thing in my world.” “Before we left, she told us to always remember the things that matter, and that it was up to us to decide what mattered and what didn’t. She hugged us both. “And remember that you matter more to the universe than you will ever know.” “It was so easy just to be with Dante. When we touched, it seemed like it was something pure. What wasn’t easy was learning how to live in the world, with all of its judgments. Those judgments managed to make their way into my body. It was like swimming in a storm at sea. Any minute, you could drown. At least it felt like that. One minute the sea was calm. And then there was a storm. And the problem, with me, anyway, was that the storm lived inside me." “People were complicated. I was complicated. Dante, he was complicated, too. People—they were included in the mysteries of the universe. What mattered is that he was an original. That he was beautiful and human and real and I loved him—and I didn’t think anything would ever change that.” “Your loneliness made me sad, Ari. And there’s something about you. I mean, people are like countries, and me and Gina, and your friend Dante, we’re all countries—and maybe you’ve given your friend Dante a visa. But even if you have, that’s just one person. And one person isn’t enough. Having friends is like traveling. Gina and I have offered you a visa to travel to our countries whenever you want. So, Ari, when are you going to give us a visa? We want so much to visit you. We want so much for you to show us around your beautiful country.” And she was crying again.” “Let’s map out the year, Dante. Let’s write our names and chart out some paths. And go see what we have never seen. And be what we have never been.” “You know, we not only have to be smart enough to be cartographers—we also have to be brave enough to dive into waters that may not be very friendly.” “But the problem was that love was never safe. Love took you to places you had always been afraid to go. What the hell did I know about love? Sometimes, when I was in Dante’s presence, I felt that I knew everything there was to know about love. But, for me, to love was one thing. To let yourself be loved, well, that was the most difficult thing of all.” “And all of this is because you looked at me one day at a swimming pool and said to yourself, I bet I can teach this guy how to swim. You saw me and I wasn’t invisible anymore. You taught me how to swim. And I didn’t have to be afraid of the water anymore. And you gave me enough words to rename the universe I lived in.” “I was also learning that loving someone was different from falling in love with them." [14/02/21] i will also dive into the waters of the world if october can come tomorrow. i will literally sacrifice my whole family to get a release date for this book. i need it now.

  6. 5 out of 5

    Jacqueline Beltran

    MY FAVORITE BOOK IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE IS GOING TO HAVE A SEQUEL!!!!!! Edit... Okay... It´s been two years...where´s the book???!!! Edit 2 The year is 2020, the world is about to end...no book, no hope I can't believe it, we did it guys It's finally here, we have a cover and a publication date...I'm shook 2021 it's the year of hope MY FAVORITE BOOK IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE IS GOING TO HAVE A SEQUEL!!!!!! Edit... Okay... It´s been two years...where´s the book???!!! Edit 2 The year is 2020, the world is about to end...no book, no hope I can't believe it, we did it guys It's finally here, we have a cover and a publication date...I'm shook 2021 it's the year of hope

  7. 5 out of 5

    daph pink ♡

    Magnificently medicore..

  8. 5 out of 5

    T

    I wrote this rant review in five minutes and I’m not bothering to edit it. I received this book from work, and was ecstatic. I had no idea the author was terrible beforehand so I was excited to read this. Aristotle and Dante was an important book to me in high school, being one of the only queer books out there that dared to venture beyond the white cis gay narrative. It is also, however, a story that relies on transphobia. This obviously warranted the backlash it got. As a queer trans person mys I wrote this rant review in five minutes and I’m not bothering to edit it. I received this book from work, and was ecstatic. I had no idea the author was terrible beforehand so I was excited to read this. Aristotle and Dante was an important book to me in high school, being one of the only queer books out there that dared to venture beyond the white cis gay narrative. It is also, however, a story that relies on transphobia. This obviously warranted the backlash it got. As a queer trans person myself, I’m glad. And I hoped the second book would reflect the author’s growth as a person. Considering that the first book follows Ari coming to terms with himself, it’s no surprise that the second is about him discovering himself and the world. So when I first read the infamous transphobic scene that was released earlier this year I thought, okay that’s bad. But if this book focuses so much on Ari and Dante unlearning their faults, it’s a necessary conversation. Every cis person has to reconcile with their transphobia. And given the storyline with Ari’s brother, it makes sense. It serves a purpose, one that ultimately addresses the transphobia of the last book and also the way cis ppl don’t view us as real people. Unfortunately, that did not happen. It only got worse. I am not allowed to share quotes from the book but I don’t think I would anyways. This book is full of harmful transphobia that is never reconciled. The book also goes on to be deeply biphobic and misogynistic. None of these things served the story. To say I’m disappointed is a severe understatement. How can Saenz write a book about the trials and tribulations of youth, the way we all realize we have work to do in order to be “good people”, and then casually toss in his own bigotry? What this tells me as a trans and bi person is that I only exist as a burden for cis gay men. And guess what? I already know many of them view me that way. I don’t need to read it in a story. I truly believe books like this will further harm queer kids, specifically those who are women/femme-aligned, bi, and/or trans. I grew up with works that were deeply offensive with the notion that “oh they didn’t know any better”. And to an extent, that was fair. The reach of the Internet (in terms of feminist outreach) is a very new phenomenon. I understand that previous generations didn’t have the privilege of unlearning their bigotry and biases at the speed that many of us do. And with publishing being the mess that it is, I don’t expect anyone in that institution to call out a person’s mistakes. It’s 2021 though. And these authors know better. I recently learned that Saenz harassed trans readers who wanted nothing more than to talk. This shit is inexcusable. Anyways, what I’m trying to say is—this book is dangerous. But the good news is that we live in a time where so many others queer books exist. The world isn’t the same as when I was a kid. There’s plenty of trans and queer authors whose books don’t push offensive ideas onto their readers. So spare yourself the pain and pick up one of those instead. They’re actually worth your time.

  9. 4 out of 5

    Reading_ Tamishly

    Was loving the book so much until 30 percent. It got really repetitive and tiring tbh. The only book I was anticipating the most this year. Thank you for reaching me. We do not need to be favs. You are okay. I am okay. Take care, Ari and Dante.

  10. 5 out of 5

    Melissa ♥ Dog/Wolf Lover ♥ Martin

    I didn’t like this one as much 🤨. The cover is awesome though! Mel 🖤🐶🐺🐾

  11. 4 out of 5

    julia

    okay so, this was originally a five star review but I am moving it to 3 stars after further reflection. in all honesty, I gave it a five star rating even though I didn’t exactly love the story. I’d like to clarify this is my opinion so please do not get offended (and this review is a mess because I read the book two months ago and am basing things off of memory). was the story bad? no, no it was not. I do think that it was unnecessary however, and that a sequel was not needed. the characters fel okay so, this was originally a five star review but I am moving it to 3 stars after further reflection. in all honesty, I gave it a five star rating even though I didn’t exactly love the story. I’d like to clarify this is my opinion so please do not get offended (and this review is a mess because I read the book two months ago and am basing things off of memory). was the story bad? no, no it was not. I do think that it was unnecessary however, and that a sequel was not needed. the characters felt different and I hate the fact that Ari was perfect. In the first book, he was messy and so realistic and I related to him so much. In the second book, he completely changed. I also feel like Dante changed somehow. oddly, and i don’t know why, but I didn’t love the friends? idk I think I’m the only one. AND SO MANY NEW CHARACTERS. WHY. one thing that I will not excuse is the biphobia and transphobia. I understand it was set in the 80’s but I think it would be much more better if it wasn’t there at all. In the first book, Ari was heavily bi-coded and then bam biphobia when Ari mentions it! his sexuality was invalidated when he mentioned it, and as someone who is bi, it hurt. as you can see though, it’s 3 stars and not 1 star so it is still completely tolerable! just like the first book, I loved the writing style and the philosophical discussions. I think the beginning was amazing (first 100 pages?) and the ending was satisfactory. I’m glad I got a chance to read it before the publication date. I’m not really sure why I gave the book five stars in the first place, and everytime I looked at it, I felt the need to change it. so here we are. if you’re reading this, hopefully you enjoy it much more than I did.

  12. 4 out of 5

    :)

    i wish i could say i am reviewing this book from an objective standpoint, but i am not. the first novel following ari and dante meant the absolute world to me, and because of my attachment to the characters and the writing, it would be almost impossible for me to hate this book. and boy was i right. this continuation was everything i wanted and more. the development of past characters and introduction and depth of new ones was astonishing - some of the best written people i’ve ever read. the plot i wish i could say i am reviewing this book from an objective standpoint, but i am not. the first novel following ari and dante meant the absolute world to me, and because of my attachment to the characters and the writing, it would be almost impossible for me to hate this book. and boy was i right. this continuation was everything i wanted and more. the development of past characters and introduction and depth of new ones was astonishing - some of the best written people i’ve ever read. the plot progression and the realistic turmoil of love that took place was so beautiful. and holy christ the writing. the writing. this piece of literature is so simple and so complex. it really does feel like the narration of a young adolescent, on a journey of self discovery and growth. this novel also came at a time in my life where the themes explored were so prevalent and touching, it was almost painful to read at times. this book is different because it lives inside of me. ~~~ october 4, 2021: school and sports are consuming my life right now, and i barely have time to read, but. this. book. is. coming. so. soon. i. cannot. wait. september 22, 2021: my patience is thinning. it is so close. this book is the only thing keeping me functioning at the moment. march 2, 2021: COVER COVER COVER. ITS SO BEAUTIFUL. february 13,2021: AHHHH TITLE “aristotle and dante dive into the waters of the world” AND RELEASE DATE: OCTOBER 12TH. SCREAMING. february 4, 2021: STILL NO NEWS. UGH. january 22, 2021: its been four days. no announcement from publishers. i. am. dying. january 18, 2021: AHHH WE'RE GETTING AN ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE PUBLISHER SOON!!! jan 14, 2021: WE HAVE GOTTEN NO UPDATES ON THIS BOOK IN LIKE FOUR MONTHS. I NEED IT NOW. i will literally start sobbing the day we get a cover or release date. dec 6, 2020: hi i need this now. hurry up.

  13. 5 out of 5

    Gabby

    While this sequel wasn't exactly necessary, I'm so glad it exists. I adore both Aristotle and Dante as character so hard! <3 Reading vlog: https://youtu.be/w5W0oMYsS3k While this sequel wasn't exactly necessary, I'm so glad it exists. I adore both Aristotle and Dante as character so hard! <3 Reading vlog: https://youtu.be/w5W0oMYsS3k

  14. 5 out of 5

    Virginia Ronan ♥ Herondale ♥

    JEEZ LOUISE!!!! Why didn't I know this is going to be a thing?! I loved the first book so much! ARGH! I can't wait for this! Dante and Ari! <333 JEEZ LOUISE!!!! Why didn't I know this is going to be a thing?! I loved the first book so much! ARGH! I can't wait for this! Dante and Ari! <333

  15. 4 out of 5

    Andrea Belfiori

    OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING! EVERYBODY STAY CALM. STAY F*CKING CALM! OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING! EVERYBODY STAY CALM. STAY F*CKING CALM!

  16. 5 out of 5

    farith

    2020: *exists* benjamin alire sáenz: 2020: *exists* benjamin alire sáenz:

  17. 4 out of 5

    Cameron Chaney

    As soon as I finish Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, I find out there's going to be a sequel... As soon as I finish Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, I find out there's going to be a sequel...

  18. 5 out of 5

    luce

    | | blog | tumblr | ko-fi | | “A part of me wanted to run away from all the complications of being in love with Dante. Maybe Ari plus Dante equated love, but it also equated complicated. It also equated playing hide-and-seek with the world. But there was a difference between the art of running and the art of running away.” This one gave me all the feels 😭 “Dante really was my only friend. It was complicated to be in love with your only friend.” It was wonderful to be reunited with Ari, Dante, an | | blog | tumblr | ko-fi | | “A part of me wanted to run away from all the complications of being in love with Dante. Maybe Ari plus Dante equated love, but it also equated complicated. It also equated playing hide-and-seek with the world. But there was a difference between the art of running and the art of running away.” This one gave me all the feels 😭 “Dante really was my only friend. It was complicated to be in love with your only friend.” It was wonderful to be reunited with Ari, Dante, and the other characters from Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe. Seeing (or reading about) these characters again truly warmed my heart. Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World picks up right after Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe and we read of the early days in Ari and Dante’s relationship. This section was probably my favourite in the whole novel, even if their summer isn’t entirely idyllic. “I was depressing myself. I was good at that. I had always been good at that.” Ari’s ongoing inner conflict about his identity and sexuality often results in him turning inward. While he is still prone to bouts of self-loathing and sadness, he has ‘grown’ since Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe and he has learnt not to shut himself entirely away from the ones he loves. His relationship with his father is much more open now, and it was really heartrending to see them bond, confide, and support each other. Ari also finds friendship in three fellow schoolmates, and their presence in his life is certainly a good one. We see how the way in which the media and public (mis)perceive and talk about the AIDS pandemic affects Ari. As he already struggles with his self-worth, his masculinity, and his sexuality, well, the deaths within his community leave their mark on him. While most of the people close to him love him and support him, at school and through the news, he witnesses and overhears plenty of homophobic remarks. As he comes to learn that responding to other people’s hatred with rage and violence, well, it doesn’t really solve matters, he tries his best to quench his anger. Ari is also still haunted by his older brother who is still in prison and, as the end of high school approaches, uncertain about his and Dante’s future. “And I didn’t give a shit that I was young, and I had just turned seventeen and I didn’t give a shit if anyone thought I was too young to feel the things that I felt. Too young? Tell that to my fucking heart.” Sáenz’s narratives brim with empathy. He is considerate, tender even, towards his characters, never dismissing their feelings or making light of their struggles. The characters at the core of this novel are truly beautiful, and support each other through each other’s ups and downs. He also conveys Ari’s fears and anxieties in such a believable way, making us understand why sometimes he reacts in a certain way or why his first instinct is usually to remain silent about his worries. Sáenz’s prose manages to be both simple and lyrical. His conversational style is truly immersive and captures with authenticity Ari’s teenage voice. The chapters are often short and very dialogue-focused, in a way that reminded me of Richard Wagamese. Their stories are heavy on dialogues, which may very well annoy some readers, but I liked the rhythm created by the characters’ conversations and, in some ways, it made me feel as if I were listening in to ‘real’ people talk about ‘real’ things. My one quip, the reason why I didn’t give this 5 stars, is the Ari/Dante dynamic. I not only wanted to see more of them together, but I just wanted more of Dante. Ari’s new friends (although likeable enough) seem to sideline Dante’s presence in the narrative...which made some of his later actions seem quite random. Speaking of which, that last 10% was a wee bit rushed (or maybe this was just me not wanting to let go of ari/dante). Still, it was lovely to read about these characters again and I’m sure that fans of Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe will fall in love with Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World. Sáenz writes about loneliness, acceptance, grief, and belonging as few do. Moving and poetic, Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World was definitely worth the wait. ARC provided by the publisher in exchange for an honest review.

  19. 5 out of 5

    ♠ TABI⁷ ♠

    not me finding out this author is unapologetically transphobic and consistently misgendering the people working on the movie adaption of the first book which is a real shame because I remember loving that one & really connecting with the characters but nope I can't support problematic authors so bye bye sequel and now my fond memories are bittersweet some receipts on this can be found —> HERE and HERE not me finding out this author is unapologetically transphobic and consistently misgendering the people working on the movie adaption of the first book which is a real shame because I remember loving that one & really connecting with the characters but nope I can't support problematic authors so bye bye sequel and now my fond memories are bittersweet some receipts on this can be found —> HERE and HERE

  20. 5 out of 5

    Mimi

    This book reads exactly as if Sáenz decided to turn Taylor Swift's song "peace" into a story and I'm not mad about it. This book reads exactly as if Sáenz decided to turn Taylor Swift's song "peace" into a story and I'm not mad about it.

  21. 5 out of 5

    anna ♡

    *bangs pots and pans* EVERYONE LISTEN UP I HAVE NEWS. so, in march, there was a live SCREENPLAY (!!!) reading of ari & dante at outfest (proof: https://www.facebook.com/events/79438...). there was a whole cast there, including the screenwriter (henry alberto) and benjamin alire saenz. a bunch of fans showed up and henry alberto tweeted for their thoughts on the live reading (proof: https://twitter.com/itshenryalberto/s...). i have scrolled through so many tweets about this and y'all? this screen *bangs pots and pans* EVERYONE LISTEN UP I HAVE NEWS. so, in march, there was a live SCREENPLAY (!!!) reading of ari & dante at outfest (proof: https://www.facebook.com/events/79438...). there was a whole cast there, including the screenwriter (henry alberto) and benjamin alire saenz. a bunch of fans showed up and henry alberto tweeted for their thoughts on the live reading (proof: https://twitter.com/itshenryalberto/s...). i have scrolled through so many tweets about this and y'all? this screenplay reading wAS A HUGE HIT. the cast looked amazing and tbh i really hope this cast is the final cast for the movie. here are two pictures: (the whole cast - https://twitter.com/itshenryalberto/s...) (xolo mariduena aka ari and reese gonzales aka dante !!!!! aren't they so perfect?? - https://twitter.com/itshenryalberto/s...) anddd that's all i got. i really hope this live reading was a small step for the movie, but idk movie productions soooo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . i have no news on the sequel but i'm still so excited!! oh and if you're getting anxious about the movie and sequel (like me lmao), i suggest following henry alberto (@itshenryalberto), benjamin alire saenz (@BenjaminAlireSa), reese gonzales (reeseWgonzales), and xolo mariduena (Xolo_Mariduena) on twitter. they all tweet about ari & dante and (currently) love, simon stuff asdfghjkl. <333

  22. 4 out of 5

    kaz auditore

    For some reason I had hope the book would adress the transphobia and actually correct it. The total opposite happened. The first thing I noticed was the constant transphobic ambiance with all that gender = genitalia through the book. It was disheartening to read esoecially this whole speech with Cassandra if he liked having a penis, this was out of time and I truly think still making that confusion of gender is your genitalia is harmful especially in a book I know will be read by young lgbt+ peo For some reason I had hope the book would adress the transphobia and actually correct it. The total opposite happened. The first thing I noticed was the constant transphobic ambiance with all that gender = genitalia through the book. It was disheartening to read esoecially this whole speech with Cassandra if he liked having a penis, this was out of time and I truly think still making that confusion of gender is your genitalia is harmful especially in a book I know will be read by young lgbt+ people. Then there's the sexism/misogyny of Ari with his friend, because he's gay he was immune to be sexist and allowed to make weird jokes even when she explicitly sais it was making her uncomfortable. It should be obvious being gay isn't an excuse to do sexist jokes and thinking you can get away with it. Again, this is harmful. Now they discovered bisexuality was a thing, I thought this at least would be done correctly but oh well! It only came up to be a threat to Dante bc Ari was being friendly with his girl classmate, Ari doesn't even explore if he might be bisexual, Dante is simply keepinmg him away to think about it, it is so clearly demonized, I don't know how a book published in 2021 can be allowed to write all that when it is supposed to be a cute/feel good book. for the last thing the writing regressed, I felt like I was writing a mid fanfic in conclusion this book was unnecessary and with a lot of serious issues

  23. 5 out of 5

    Avani ✨

    Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World by Benjamin Alire Saenz, the sequel to another favorite of mine "Aristotle & Dante Discover The Secrets of Universe", we see Ari and Dante discover themselves and their relationship with each other. I enjoyed reading the first book, and this one did not disappoint either. Ari, the subtle and silent boy discovers himself at crossroads with the world and society that focuses so much on homophobia. This book is romantic as well as very sweet at t Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World by Benjamin Alire Saenz, the sequel to another favorite of mine "Aristotle & Dante Discover The Secrets of Universe", we see Ari and Dante discover themselves and their relationship with each other. I enjoyed reading the first book, and this one did not disappoint either. Ari, the subtle and silent boy discovers himself at crossroads with the world and society that focuses so much on homophobia. This book is romantic as well as very sweet at the same time. This book took me back to Ari & Dante and the other characters in the book. I loved every aspect of this and do not understand which ones to add to this review. Their parents and aspects related to it was the most heartwarming thing to read about. I definitely would have loved to see more of Ari & Dante's dynamic if nothing else in this book, but nevertheless, how much ever moments were there, they were quite sweet and cute. I definitely felt the ending was rushed a bit. But nothing beats my love for Ari & Dante's story and it's a 5 star read for me.

  24. 5 out of 5

    Devanshi

    Ari loved Dante. Dante loved Ari. I didn’t feel lost as I kissed Dante. Not lost at all. I had found where I belonged. I lost count about the number of times this book made me cry. I'm crying right now as I write this. Living inside Ari's head makes me feel afraid and secure all at once. It's a beautiful and scary place to live in. The way the author carved the characters make us feel their pain and love as if we were living it. And the love? This is best love story I've read this year. Ther Ari loved Dante. Dante loved Ari. I didn’t feel lost as I kissed Dante. Not lost at all. I had found where I belonged. I lost count about the number of times this book made me cry. I'm crying right now as I write this. Living inside Ari's head makes me feel afraid and secure all at once. It's a beautiful and scary place to live in. The way the author carved the characters make us feel their pain and love as if we were living it. And the love? This is best love story I've read this year. There are a hundred of lines I've highlighted, a thousand of moments stored inside me. If I haven't said it enough, it's beautiful. If you've read the first book, this is even better than that and if you haven't, well, you're missing something lovely in your life. It's like I found a piece of myself in Ari's narrative. Loved it. “When you are standing all alone,” she whispered, “the people who notice—those are the people who stand by your side. Those are the people who love you.”

  25. 5 out of 5

    ellie

    This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. As I felt the beating of Dante’s heart against the palm of my hand, I wished I could somehow reach into my chest and and rip out my own heart and show Dante everything that it held. well this was a journey💀 i liked this and i didn’t like this. at all. my feelings about this book are so mixed and all over the place and i doubt i will ever be able to untangle them... so you’re getting some unfiltered, jumbled thoughts by a sleep-deprived uni student drowning in assignment deadlines :) As I felt the beating of Dante’s heart against the palm of my hand, I wished I could somehow reach into my chest and and rip out my own heart and show Dante everything that it held. well this was a journey💀 i liked this and i didn’t like this. at all. my feelings about this book are so mixed and all over the place and i doubt i will ever be able to untangle them... so you’re getting some unfiltered, jumbled thoughts by a sleep-deprived uni student drowning in assignment deadlines :) Time didn’t exist, and whatever the world thought of us, we didn’t live in anybody’s world but our own at that very moment. firstly, the lack of Dante in “Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World” was kinda depressing. especially bcos he’s my fave. Dante really didn’t change much - all of the monumental growth is solely reserved for Ari. i wanted this book to be about Ari and Dante grappling with their futures as gay men and what that would mean for their relationship... and we get that? more like, blink and you’ll miss it, tho. the last like 30 pages is reserved for them and their relationship but it was so rushed and while some scenes in that time made me cry - it wasn’t scenes about Dante and Ari, it was the wider social issues the author focused on which i liked but again, thought could have been explored so much more. Dante deserved more. so this should be renamed ”Aristotle and occasionally Dante Dive into the Waters of the World”. Dante, Dante, Dante. He was like a heart that was beating in every pore of my body. His heart was beating in my heart. His heart was beating in my head. His heart was beating in my stomach. His heart was beating in my legs. His heart was beating in my arms, my hands, my fingers. His heart was beating in my tongue, my lips. No wonder I was trembling. Trembling, trembling, trembling. i felt like parts really dragged and had to force myself not to skim pages😭 it really didn’t need to be as long as it was since a lot of scenes were repeated and the same philosophical ramblings of Ari were becoming a tad overdone. it was definitely in need of refining - there were enough grammatical errors that i began to notice, in addition to names being wrong, like Ari’s sisters being called Emmy and Vera instead of Cecelia and Sylvia (those girlies ain’t even in the same ballpark) while Ari was once called Aristide Quintana instead of Mendoza... with Quintana being Dante’s surname. then just the repetitiveness of the all the deep, philosophical shit got pretentious quickly bcos it was so overused. a lot of the really beautiful quotes got lost amongst the mediocre pretentious ones the author kept drowning the narrative in. they lost their impact bcos every few lines was something profound Ari said or thought. and that’s the other thing... a lot of other teen characters spoke in all these pretentious metaphors and it was kinda funny to read - like Cassandra, Gina, Susie. it worked for Dante bcos he always speaks like that, he oozes intelligent, art, poetry, he glows with his love and curiosity of the world. and by extent, it works for Ari since he converses so much with Dante. but when everyone else started jumping onto the philosophical bandwagon, it got pretty suffocating. bcos, my favourite scenes were all the normal shit Ari and Dante talked about. conversations where they actually sounded like teens— like the scene where Ari invites Dante over to his house on the phone and the two of them are pretending to be a salesman trying to sell shit to a customer over the phone. when they acted like goofy idiots was when i found myself smiling also like a goofy idiot. let teens be teens. these two are seventeen. sometimes they didn’t read like it. the philosophical shit worked in the first book bcos i don’t think it was constant and jammed down our throats. it occurred naturally in these little pockets of beauty and pain. here it was like endless tidal waves of profound observations and comments. and again, the subtly and minimal usage of it in the previous packed more of a punch for me - bcos teens still can think all this shit that Ari thinks and observes... but not 24/7. he was balanced in the first book, a combo of a depressed kid with a lot of repressed emotions that resulted in him bottling shit up, and the more profound teen growing into himself and making a lot of discoveries about the world and himself. here... he was just too much of the “profound discoveries” guy with very little of his teenage personality shining through. People say that love is like a kind of heaven. I was beginning to think that love is a kind of hell. that being said, Ari was so much more open with himself about his love for Dante and it was so beautiful, god. he admired, observed, and loved Dante so much, thinking the most romantic and heartbreaking things bcos he was just so in love with Dante and at times didn’t know what to do with so much love. especially bcos i felt a bit let down with the ending of the last book, with Ari not coming to terms with his feelings for Dante on his own, i feel like seeing Ari love Dante in this book really made it up to me lol. i really felt Ari blossom and accept himself. his growth was very apparent and i felt like he was brighter. watching him make friends was probably my favourite thing :) it was so sweet and fun to see him just talk to people and not put shields up around his heart. the romance of Ari and Dante itself would be four stars... just everything that encompassed their romance is what fell flat here. i loved the sweet side of these two in love— i found myself smiling so much at their small exchanges, silly antics and soft words. you really got to see their soft, tentative love. the silent moments where they just adored one another, filled with so much joy, hope and sincerity. Everyone had disappeared from the universe expect the young man whose hand I was holding and everything that had ever been born and everything that had ever died existed where his hand touched mine. i did get pretty emotional with Ari’s loss which he experienced (which is where a lot of my conflicting emotions regarding the books comes from bcos this did hit me in the gut a lot towards the end). by that point, i had been pretty resigned to skimming and not being as invested as i originally was. but that plot line definitely snagged me back in and it felt just like the first book - about Ari and Dante, and their parents. the boys’ dynamics with their parents and as a whole unit is something i adored in the first book and was very lacking in this one, so any moment i found the two families merging again, i automatically loved it. the last 25% of the book truly captured the beauty and essence of the first book and why everyone loves it. it’s a shame it took so long for the story to finally move. it felt pretty stagnant up until that point. it’s a shame the author focused so much time on the unnecessary shit which bogged down the book. There was only me and him and the darkness around us and the threat of a storm and there was a campfire and it made Dante seem like he was appearing out of the darkness, his face shining in the light of the fire. I had never felt this alive and I thought that I would never love anyone or anything as much as I loved Dante in this very moment. i can’t write a review about this book without acknowledging the problematic themes which have disheartened a lot of readers. the main one i initially noticed was Ari and Cassandra. now, Ari’s friendship with Cassandra left me feeling... things? idk what exactly it made me feel, but i just noticed stuff about their connection. Ari admits he has a connection with her like he doesn’t have with anyone else, including Dante. their relationship was unique, with Ari letting her into parts of his life he didn’t let anyone else into. i low-key got romantic vibes from them together but Ari tells Dante he “doesn’t think” he’s bisexual and that he’s not attracted to Cassandra. but he commented a lot on how pretty he thought she was, how he liked her smile etc... and it all felt very much not platonic. (i mean he said shit like “Cassandra Ortega’s voice was just what I needed in my life.”) and that’s totally fine if a) the author bothered to explore bisexuality (which he didn’t - instead bisexuality is thrown at Ari like an accusation) and b) if this wasn’t a love story about Dante and Ari. getting romantic vibes between Cassandra and Ari kinda undermined his love for Dante bcos it really didn’t feel something platonic like his friendships with Susie and Gina. so i feel like the lack of clarity regarding Ari and Cassandra’s relationship made things worse lmao - either way, confirming his bisexuality or confirming his gay identity would have been much better since this vague middle ground felt lazy af. and instead, just a potential way to cause conflict for Dante and Ari rather than actually open an insightful conversation about bisexuality. do i make sense, lol? (and reading lower rated reviews, the transphobia, the biphobia and the misogyny in this book was brought to my attention more vividly... so people saying that it’s set in the 80s excuses the damaging stereotypes and behaviours - it doesn’t. yall are acting like the 80s is the Stone Age and that this author isn’t writing in 2021. don’t make excuses for toxic behaviour). so... yeah, i feel like i couldn’t write this review without mentioning that bcos originally, i barely noticed any of the problematic stuff initially and that’s my own fault for not paying close attention (but i did skim bcos this shit was repetitive). it wasn’t until the biphobia came up that i started to have doubts lmao. the misogynistic incident didn’t sit right with me when it happened. then when other reviews mentioned it i was like “oh so that’s why i felt odd with that conversation?” while the transphobic conversation i skimmed and paid little attention to since it was so odd. i was like “i ain’t even gonna pretend like i understand what they’re talking about” bcos again, they got bogged down way too often with this profound verbal diarrhoea which ended up sounding pretentious, odd, or just made zero sense lol. and instead, came across as offensive at times when i think the author’s aims was to be profound and “woke”. Sometimes I think that I’m nothing but a lot of emotions all tangled up in my body and I don’t know how to untangle them. also, damn the overcrowding of characters ://// every fucker and their Nan was dropped into this book. every chapter was someone new who showed up for like 0.5 seconds and dipped, never to be seen again. they weren’t characters. not really. they were just life lessons for Ari to comment on and observe. they were ways to heroically elevate Ari - having no agency other than to serve Ari and build up his character (Rico Rubio, Mrs Alvarez, Danny, Emma, Julio, Cricket, Hector and Elena, Chuy, like three or four of Ari’s teachers, the dead trans woman his brother killed...) so instead of this being a cohesive story, at times it felt like a handful of short stories/interactions Ari had to learn for some big life lesson all mushed together to come across as deep and philosophical. it just felt kinda cheap, instead of focusing solely on one or two over arching storylines, it was hundreds of small jumbled ones. the storylines towards the end of the book, Ari’s father, Ari and Dante’s futures, the AIDS epidemic... all of those were where this story soared and packed a punch for me. but the middle of the book (id say from 30%-70%) was unnecessary, aimless and unrefined. ”You’re every poem I’ve ever loved.” so can you see my why i have mixed feelings?😭 i mean i cried two or three times but simultaneously feel cheated by the rest of the book. im not as bummed as most people since i don’t have the nostalgia attached to this since i legit read the first book like two days ago lmao. but i can understand why people are disappointed by this. the beauty and the nuance of the first book was diluted and under utilised. replaced by suffocating purple prose with a pretty aimless plot. while Ari and Dante’s relationship truly was put on the back burner... for reasons unknown lmao. so, if you adored the first book and are scared to pick this up in fear it ruins the nostalgia and your warm, fuzzy memories?? don’t pick this up. keep those warm fuzzy feelings in tact. but if you’re like me and don’t care either way... go for it, i guess.

  26. 5 out of 5

    bianca

    edit june 2021: the fact that this wasn't released on pride month is an active hate crime against our community -- edit february 2021: i just found out we have a title and a synopsis current status: dead -- edit july 2020: FUCKUCKUFUCKFUCKUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK -- edit june 2020: i've never been more lied to in my entire life -- original february 2018 WHEN, BENJAMIN??? WHEN WILL THERE BE OTHER SUMMERS??? i need more info aaaaa edit june 2021: the fact that this wasn't released on pride month is an active hate crime against our community -- edit february 2021: i just found out we have a title and a synopsis current status: dead -- edit july 2020: FUCKUCKUFUCKFUCKUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK -- edit june 2020: i've never been more lied to in my entire life -- original february 2018 WHEN, BENJAMIN??? WHEN WILL THERE BE OTHER SUMMERS??? i need more info aaaaa

  27. 4 out of 5

    Cassandra

    Thank you to Netgalley and Simon & Schuster Canada for this ARC. I received an electronic copy of this book from Netgalley and Simon & Schuster Canada in exchange for an honest review: *Trigger/ content warnings: transphobia, misogyny, biphobia, violence, death, homophobia **Review contains slight spoilers I will start by saying that when I read the first book, I was shocked and uncomfortable with the way transphobia/ violence against a trans woman was used to further the plot in a completely unne Thank you to Netgalley and Simon & Schuster Canada for this ARC. I received an electronic copy of this book from Netgalley and Simon & Schuster Canada in exchange for an honest review: *Trigger/ content warnings: transphobia, misogyny, biphobia, violence, death, homophobia **Review contains slight spoilers I will start by saying that when I read the first book, I was shocked and uncomfortable with the way transphobia/ violence against a trans woman was used to further the plot in a completely unnecessary way. I had hoped this would be left behind in Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World. However, the sequel picks up right where the first book left off, and I was extremely unhappy to see that the language used to discuss/describe gender in the book is very binary and disrespectful of trans identities. It was difficult and uncomfortable to read all of the ways the characters equated gender with biological sex, over and over again throughout the book. The way they discussed trans women was disrespectful, full of harmful stereotypes and misgendering. I also did not like how the main characters interacted with women. In one chapter, a friend of Aristotle’s tells him that he is making her uncomfortable, and that she was feeling overly sexualized/ objectified by his comments. He justifies his actions/ comments by saying that because he is a gay man he can’t possibly be making her feel that way. This seems to take accountability away from the actions in question by using sexuality as a justification for sexism/ misogyny. The way that bisexuality was discussed in this book was also problematic. Aristotle develops a friendship with a classmate named Cassandra in this book, and Dante immediately “accuses” him of really being bisexual, not gay, and fears that Aristotle will leave him for Cassandra. Aristotle explains that there is no need for Dante to feel threatened, but he refuses to believe him. Aristotle could very well have been bisexual, but that identity is not fully considered or discussed. The way that Dante views bisexuality - as a threat - was also problematic; it wouldn’t make Aristotle love him any less. Seeing these views (either biphobia or erasure) written out in a popular book series was very disappointing. Finally, on a more technical note, the dialogue in this book was stilted and so completely unrealistic. No teenager or even adult speaks like the characters in this book. It was also slow paced and I found it difficult to care about the suddenly huge cast of characters. The banter between Aristotle and Dante, which in the first book was done well and at times quite endearing, was also unrealistic - they did not have good rapport in my opinion. At time it was even boring to read their conversations. In conclusion, so much of this book was disappointing and uncomfortable and so I do not recommend it.

  28. 4 out of 5

    mara (taylor's version)

    im crying of how beautiful this book was im crying because i will never have a love like them im crying because i’ve learn the secrets of the universe goodbye my boys, ill see you next time whenever i reread this book, but you’re going to be in my mind all the time, thank you for teaching me to be love, thank you for teaching me that adults are also people, thank you for teaching me that i don’t have to be ashamed of who i am thank you for everything my boys thank you for teaching me what is lov im crying of how beautiful this book was im crying because i will never have a love like them im crying because i’ve learn the secrets of the universe goodbye my boys, ill see you next time whenever i reread this book, but you’re going to be in my mind all the time, thank you for teaching me to be love, thank you for teaching me that adults are also people, thank you for teaching me that i don’t have to be ashamed of who i am thank you for everything my boys thank you for teaching me what is loving and for teaching me that i have to let other people love me thank you for everything my boys, for absolutely everything i’ll see you next time ill remember all of you when i change the world and im going to, i swear thanks again with love, mara

  29. 5 out of 5

    ⛅ Saniya (sunnysidereviews) ⛅

    This book will fill your heart with joy and warmth, but will also break it into tiny little pieces. Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World is a story about everyday life, the transition from boyhood to adulthood, and of course, discovering the secrets of the universe. While there wasn’t a particular plot, there is an abundance of character development. Moreover, character growth can lead to broken and mended relationships, and this novel is a prime example of this. Let’s talk about This book will fill your heart with joy and warmth, but will also break it into tiny little pieces. Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World is a story about everyday life, the transition from boyhood to adulthood, and of course, discovering the secrets of the universe. While there wasn’t a particular plot, there is an abundance of character development. Moreover, character growth can lead to broken and mended relationships, and this novel is a prime example of this. Let’s talk about the infamous main characters of the book; Aristotle and Dante. Throughout the story, the two go through many changes. (No, not puberty.) They discover what it means to live, grow, and love. In this novel, Ari does all the things he was too scared to do in the previous book. I don’t want to spoil too much, but essentially, Ari uses his senior year to reconnect with old friends and family. His journey to rediscovering the world around him is so incredibly beautiful and heart wrenching. You can definitely see the difference between how he handled situations in Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, versus in this novel. It’s truly refreshing to see how much he’s changed. Of course, some things will always stick -- like Ari’s quiet nature, and his love for running. Furthermore, because of their growth and development, Aristotle and Dante’s relationship begins to shift. Without spoiling too much, many of their falling outs seemed out of place and sudden. It simply didn’t make sense to me. But what I love about this book is that it’s about maturing and becoming a better version of oneself. In addition, the side characters were a delight. Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World has by far the most well crafted side characters I’ve ever read about. They are incredibly unique, and even go through development themselves. I also love that the side characters don’t interfere much with Aristotle and Dante. They each go through their own personal journeys, which I found to be quite unique and endearing. The dialogue is absolutely remarkable. Almost every sentence in the book is quotable. However, some lines in the beginning of the story were a bit too cheesy for my liking. Nevertheless, the author gives you an abundance of writing to ponder on. Furthermore, the writing was done incredibly well. In comparison to Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, the writing felt more mature, which definitely added to Ari’s development throughout the story. It’s also quite engaging, which I absolutely loved considering the length of the novel. Overall, I really enjoyed the book! It’s snarky, emotional, and was an unpredictable finale to the Ari and Dante series. While I disliked the ending, I still recommend Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World to all Benjamin Alire Sáenz fans! Age Rating: 15 and up TW: Racism, some use of alcohol Final Rating: 9.5/10 or 4.75 stars More reviews like this on https://sunnysidereviews.wordpress.com/ ! Thank you Netgalley and Simon & Schuster Books for Young Readers for the eARC in exchange for an honest review.

  30. 4 out of 5

    ✣ Freya Wilkinson ✣

    IT HAS A TITLE IT HAS A TITLE

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